Back in 2017 the network of high speed lines in western France was extended creating a high speed route from the centre of Paris to the outskirts of Bordeaux.
Therefore the fastest ever trains between the two cities race non-stop down the new route.
Though the towns such as Poitiers and Angouleme which the new stretch of high speed line by passes, couldn't be deprived of direct trains from Paris, so some trains still take the older route and are therefore only at high speed for around a third of the journey; while others diverge further along the new route to serve just one or two additional towns.
Both the longer route, which doesn't solely involve the high speed line and the newer direct route are both taken by regular TGV InOui services and low-cost, but more basic, Ouigo services
So it's particularly worthwhile to click on the Train Guides below so that you can compare the two train services.
So when taking the train from Paris to Bordeaux, what may not be obvious when looking up the journey with the ticket agents is that thee are four groups of train services:
1: Taking the faster non-stop route, on a TGV InOui service (option 1 below)
2. Taking that faster route on a Ouigo service (option 3 below)
2. Taking the slower TGV InOui services (option 2 below)
3. Taking the slower Ouigo services (option 3 below)
When travelling between most cities by train there is only one logical option, though on other journeys there is a choice between different trains or alternative routes. If different options are available you can use the info to decide which is best for you.
2hr 11min - 2hr 16 min
Daily
Mon-Thurs = 12 x trains per day
Friday = 15 x trains
Saturday = 10 x trains
Sunday = 8 x trains
ShowMeTheJourney earns a small commission on Trainline ticket sales. It can be a particularly good option for: Comparing different train services; Booking international journeys with connections; Travelling between the UK to destinations beyond Amsterdam, Brussels and Paris - and for international travellers who don't reside in western Europe.
SNCF is the national rail operator in France and not so long ago it recently simplified both the range of tickets and the term and conditions of using them.
Therefore the cheapest tickets also become more flexible too.
Other improvements included a simple integration of travelling with bicycles and rail pass users being able to book reservations for national journeys, without paying booking fees.
And it also recently launched SNCF Connect as replacement for its Oui.SNCF booking service.
You can set up a low price alert to let you know when the cheapest price is available for a future journey.
Something else to look out for is that simplest way of travelling with tickets is to use the SNCF Connect App, as booked tickets can therefore be stored on your mobile device, which can then be shown to the train conductors as proof of purchase.
SNCF Connect in the App (Apple) store
SNCF also operates RailEurope, which is in effect a dedicated online booking service for making bookings from outside of Europe.
If you reside outside of Europe you may discover that SNCF Connect rejects phone numbers or card numbers, but RailEurope won't do so.
Though RailEurope will add booking fees when making a purchase
Happy Rail is a Netherlands rail ticket agency which sells tickets for both national and international journeys within a range of countries including Belgium France, Germany, Sweden, Switzerland.
HappyRail doesn't charge booking fees in the conventional sense, but if you're not Dutch you can expect to pay additional transaction fees, which will be added to the total cost.
That's because the most common form of online payment used in The Netherlands is 'iDEAL' and HappyRail doesn't charge a transaction fee for 'iDEAL' payments, but only Dutch residents can sign up to 'iDEAL'.
Other forms of payment include Visa debit cards will incur a fee.
Note that these trains depart from the Gare-Montparnasse in Paris.
Final Destination: Bordeaux or Toulouse or Irun, or Hendaye or Tarbes or Arachon
Now that the LGV Sud Europe Atlantique high speed line has opened, these TGV InOui trains are NON-STOP between Paris and Bordeaux in the fastest ever time!
Target these trains, with a journey time of around 2hr 8mins and avoid the slower TGVs, which still take the older route; those with a journey time of more than 3hrs.
However, when the most heavily discounted tickets for these faster trains have sold out, you can usually save money by taking those slower trains.
This non-stop journey is featured on Conde Nast's list of The Best European Train Trips.
The low-cost, but more basic, Ouigo services now provide a direct alternative to these InOui trains for a journey from Paris to Bordeaux.
The daily departure by those Ouigo services at 09:07 is also non-stop from Paris to Bordeaux, so match the speed of these TGV InOui services.
Book early and save: Yes
Online bookings usually open: up to 6 months ahead of the travel date - but bookings can open sooner when SNCF is running a promotion.
When booking 2nd class tickets only one type of ticket will be available per departure, discounted 'Prems' tickets or 'Seconde' tickets; though the price of Seconde tickets are also typically cheaper when they are first placed on sale.
When booking 1st class tickets there will be a choice of Premiere tickets and Business Premiere tickets.
The two key T&Cs of booking Prems, Seconde, or Premiere tickets are:
Though if you book Business Premiere tickets, the key T&Cs are that tickets can be exchanged and refunded free of charge up to 30 minutes after departure, so if you get to the station just too late to miss the train you were originally booked on to, you won't lose out financially.
The price is dictated by demand per departure, so book ahead and try and be flexible re: your departure and arrival times, as trains leaving earlier or later can be cheaper.
Expect to pay more for this journey between the beginning of June and mid-September, particularly if you will be travelling on a Friday or Saturday, as the most heavily discounted tickets inevitably sell out faster at times of particularly high demand.
Seats will automatically be assigned when booking tickets for this journey.
Rail Pass Users:
If you will be travelling with an InterRail or Eurail pass, you will have to pay a reservation fee prior to boarding; more info is available on our guide to using rail passes in France.
Though those €10 rail pass reservations can be harder to track down on these fastest trains between Paris and Bordeaux, they're more likely to be available on the slower, alternative trains.
However, there are no viable alternatives for avoiding these TGV trains on this route.
2hr 51min - 3hr 36min
Daily
Mon-Fri = 10 x trains per day
Saturday = 7 x trains
Sunday = 9 x trains
ShowMeTheJourney earns a small commission on Trainline ticket sales. It can be a particularly good option for: Comparing different train services; Booking international journeys with connections; Travelling between the UK to destinations beyond Amsterdam, Brussels and Paris - and for international travellers who don't reside in western Europe.
SNCF is the national rail operator in France and not so long ago it recently simplified both the range of tickets and the term and conditions of using them.
Therefore the cheapest tickets also become more flexible too.
Other improvements included a simple integration of travelling with bicycles and rail pass users being able to book reservations for national journeys, without paying booking fees.
And it also recently launched SNCF Connect as replacement for its Oui.SNCF booking service.
You can set up a low price alert to let you know when the cheapest price is available for a future journey.
Something else to look out for is that simplest way of travelling with tickets is to use the SNCF Connect App, as booked tickets can therefore be stored on your mobile device, which can then be shown to the train conductors as proof of purchase.
SNCF Connect in the App (Apple) store
SNCF also operates RailEurope, which is in effect a dedicated online booking service for making bookings from outside of Europe.
If you reside outside of Europe you may discover that SNCF Connect rejects phone numbers or card numbers, but RailEurope won't do so.
Though RailEurope will add booking fees when making a purchase
Happy Rail is a Netherlands rail ticket agency which sells tickets for both national and international journeys within a range of countries including Belgium France, Germany, Sweden, Switzerland.
HappyRail doesn't charge booking fees in the conventional sense, but if you're not Dutch you can expect to pay additional transaction fees, which will be added to the total cost.
That's because the most common form of online payment used in The Netherlands is 'iDEAL' and HappyRail doesn't charge a transaction fee for 'iDEAL' payments, but only Dutch residents can sign up to 'iDEAL'.
Other forms of payment include Visa debit cards will incur a fee.
Note that these trains depart from Gare Montparnasse in Paris.
The extension to the Paris – Bordeaux high speed line by passes all of the towns between Tours and Bordeaux, including St Pierre de Corps.
These trains either divert off the new line to make station calls on the older route, or only use the older part of the high speed line (the very slowest trains)
However, because they are slower, they're usually cheaper, the most heavily discounted tickets inevitably sell out faster on the alternative quicker trains; though these slower trains are NOT automatically cheaper!
But take care when making a booking, as there are such big differences in journey times on these slower trains.
A mix of TGV trains are used for these slower Paris to Bordeaux services, but here's a guide to how you can confirm which type of TGV train you will be travelling by.
The low-cost, but more basic, Ouigo services now provide a direct alternative to these InOui trains for a journey from Paris to Bordeaux.
Book early and save: Yes
Online bookings usually open: up to 6 months ahead of the travel date - but bookings can open sooner when SNCF is running a promotion.
When booking 2nd class tickets only one type of ticket will be available per departure, discounted 'Prems' tickets or 'Seconde' tickets; though the price of Seconde tickets are also typically cheaper when they are first placed on sale.
When booking 1st class tickets there will be a choice of Premiere tickets and Business Premiere tickets.
The two key T&Cs of booking Prems, Seconde, or Premiere tickets are:
Though if you book Business Premiere tickets, the key T&Cs are that tickets can be exchanged and refunded free of charge up to 30 minutes after departure, so if you get to the station just too late to miss the train you were originally booked on to, you won't lose out financially.
Rail Pass Users:
If you will be travelling with an InterRail or Eurail pass, you will have to pay a reservation fee prior to boarding; more info is available on our guide to using rail passes in France.
The €10 rail pass reservations tend to sell out particularly quickly for this journey on Fridays-Sundays in the summer months.
Though they tend to be more widely available on these slower trains, compared to the faster non-stop trains.
However, there are no viable alternatives for avoiding these TGV trains on this route.
2hr 11min - 3hr 4min
Daily
4 x trains per day
ShowMeTheJourney earns a small commission on Trainline ticket sales. It can be a particularly good option for: Comparing different train services; Booking international journeys with connections; Travelling between the UK to destinations beyond Amsterdam, Brussels and Paris - and for international travellers who don't reside in western Europe.
SNCF is the national rail operator in France and not so long ago it recently simplified both the range of tickets and the term and conditions of using them.
Therefore the cheapest tickets also become more flexible too.
Other improvements included a simple integration of travelling with bicycles and rail pass users being able to book reservations for national journeys, without paying booking fees.
And it also recently launched SNCF Connect as replacement for its Oui.SNCF booking service.
You can set up a low price alert to let you know when the cheapest price is available for a future journey.
Something else to look out for is that simplest way of travelling with tickets is to use the SNCF Connect App, as booked tickets can therefore be stored on your mobile device, which can then be shown to the train conductors as proof of purchase.
SNCF Connect in the App (Apple) store
SNCF also operates RailEurope, which is in effect a dedicated online booking service for making bookings from outside of Europe.
If you reside outside of Europe you may discover that SNCF Connect rejects phone numbers or card numbers, but RailEurope won't do so.
Though RailEurope will add booking fees when making a purchase
Final Destination: Bordeaux
The Ouigo service which is usually scheduled to depart Paris at 09:07 is faster because it is non-stop to Bordeaux.
If you do opt to travel from Paris to Bordeaux by these Ouigo trains, you should aim to be at the Gare Montparnasse 30 mins before the train is due to depart.
And that's because you need to pass through 'reception' before boarding a Ouigo train; staff need to verify that all passengers are abiding by the 'rules' of travelling on a Ouigo train, no additional un-booked luggage, no bikes etc.
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Online bookings usually open: up to 9 months ahead of the travel date
Tickets for the alternative service of TGV InOui trains are usually made available 4 months ahead, so if you look up this journey more than 4 months ahead on SNCF Connect, you may only see these Ouigo services, but they are not the only option on this route.
What is particularly worth being aware of when booking tickets for journeys by Ouigo train services, is that:
Though these factors, and more, are why you can make big savings by opting to travel by these Ouigo trains and not on the standard TGV InOui trains.
Eurail and InterRail Pass Users:
Rail passes cannot be used on Ouigo trains, but if you will be travelling with a 2nd class pass, our guide to using rail passes in France, explains why taking a Ouigo train can be worth considering
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