The route taken by the Paris to Torino / Turin trains has been closed until summer 2024, due to damage caused by a landslide.
Replacement bus services have now made available for international journeys along the closed section of the route, from a train which departs Paris daily at 14:48 - departing London at 09:31 allows two hours to cross Paris and make the connection.
The alternative route, involves travelling via Switzerland and Milano, with at least three connections and a journey time of more than 12 hours.
So the info below is currently not relevant!
It is usually entirely feasible to make a journey by train during the day from London to Torino/Turin.
The timings allow plenty of time to cross Paris, so you won't be rushing from the onward connection against the clock.
When travelling between most cities by train there is only one logical option, though on other journeys there is a choice between different trains or alternative routes. If different options are available you can use the info to decide which is best for you.
9hr 14min - 9hr 56min
Daily
Monday to Friday: = up 3 x connections per day
Saturday / Sunday: = 2 x connections per day
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The route taken by the Paris to Torino / Turin trains has been closed until summer 2024, due to damage caused by a landslide.
Replacement bus services have not been made available for international journeys along the closed section of the route.
The alternative route, which is currently the only option, involves travelling via Switzerland and Milano, with at least three connections and a journey time of more than 12 hours.
It is in effect the options 3 and 4 of a London to Milano journey + the journey by train from Milano to Torino / Turin.
At St Pancras:
This end-to-end journey typically involves departing London on Monday to Friday at 08:01 and at 10:31 daily.
Eurostar is currently suggesting that Standard Class And Standard Premier ticket holders should be at the Eurostar departure area in St Pancras International 90 mins before departure; and that Business Premier ticket holders should be there 45-60mins prior to departure.
The departure gates will close 30 mins prior to departure for Standard Class And Standard Premier ticket holders; and 15 mins prior to departure for Business Premier ticket holders.
Our guide to taking a Eurostar from London is here.
Note that London is in a different time zone to mainland Europe, it is one hour behind; hence what can seem like a discrepancy between the journey time and the interval between the departure and arrival times.
Departing from the Gare De Lyon
The Eurostar will arrive in Paris at the Gare Du Nord, but the trains on to Torino will depart from the Gare De Lyon.
This guide explains how to make the transfer between the two stations by RER train.
Though when booking end-2-end tickets for this journey to Torino / Turin, the timetable will allow more than 1hr 15mins to cross Paris from one station to the other.
Making that transfer across Paris by RER train won't usually take more than 30 mins and you won't have to 'check-in' for the Torino train.
Most departures will be by the e320 trains, but the e300 trains can also be used.
It's not a scenic journey, but it is a journey with SIX distinct phases and highlights:
1: For most of the first 8 mins of the journey the trains use tunnels to exit London (Stratford International station is located between the tunnels).
2: Then from the right of the train, there are views of the River Thames marshes and of the Queen Elizabeth II road bridge.
3: The third tunnel that the train will pass through is the tunnel under the River Thames.
4: Shortly after Ebbsfleet International station (can only be seen from the right of the train) is the scenic highlight of the journey - the crossing of the River Medway.
5: The train will slow down as it approaches The Channel Tunnel.
Announcements are no longer made that the train is about to enter the tunnel.
The journey through the tunnel will take around 22 mins.
6: There is little of note to be seen from the high speed lines in France.
When the usual timetable is operating; the 08:01 departure from London connects into the Monday to Friday TGV departure from the Gare De Lyon which typically departs Paris at around 12:40.
The train which departs from London at around 10:30 connects into the daily TGV train which departs Paris at around 14:45 and the Italian Frecce train, which typically departs at around 15:10.
That TGV train typically arrives into Torino/Turin at around 20:20, but the Frecce trains arrives an hour later, because it diverts off the direct route to serve Lyon.
Taking the TGV trains:
Final Destination Milano P. G
All trains also call at: Modane, Bardonecchia, Oulx-Cesana-Claviere-Sestriere
The TGV heading to Torino and on to Milano will often be joined to another TGV heading to a different destination on departure from Paris.
So don't be surprised, when looking at the departure displays at Paris Gare De Lyon, if you see a train departing at the same time and from the same voie (track/platform) as the train heading to Milano.
This other train will also have a different train number.
You won't have to worry about boarding the wrong part of the train; your seat will have been assigned in the train heading to Torino.
The TGVs making the journeys to Italy also spell out where they will be heading to on the exterior of the coaches.
Taking the Frecce train:
Final Destination: Milano Centrale
The train also calls at: Modane
Eurail and InterRail passes are not valid on the Frecciarossa 1000 trains on this route.
Connections in Torino from the earlier departure from Paris
On Monday to Friday these onwards connections are available when departing from London at around 08:00:
This is, in our humble opinion, one of the most exciting journeys you can take on European express trains.
We love the mix of high speed travel and stunning Alpine scenery
Aside from the wow factor of the speed, most high speed train journeys aren't scenically interesting, when high speed lines pass through hills and mountains, they tend to dive into tunnels.
This journey picks up in terms of scenery once the train leaves the high speed line behind - and that's what makes this journey so exceptional, the alpine views from a TGV train don't get better than this!
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An option is to split the booking into London to Paris and Paris to Torino journeys, so that you will have more than three hours to make a leisurely transfer across Paris - though doing so will likely be more expensive.
Seat reservations are automatically included when booking tickets for both trains.
Your ticket will not include the RER train across Paris from the Gare Du Nord to the Gare De Lyon.
Eurostar train's general ticket terms:
The only ticket type are the Flexible tickets, but it is the class of service you opt to travel by, which impacts on the terms and conditions of travel.
*Exchanges
Book to travel in Standard and Standard Premier class:
The booked date and time can be exchanged to a different departure to the same destination up to one hour* before departure time.
Book to travel in Premier class:
The booked date and time can be exchanged to a different departure up until the end of the previous day, without having to pay any price differences on any other charges.
The Eurostar ticket terms summary is here
Refunds
Book to travel in Standard and Standard Premier class:
Book to travel in Premier class:
Up until the end of the day before departure date, tickets can be refunded at no additional cost
Seat Reservations on the Eurostar
Reservations are mandatory so seats are assigned when booking - But after a booking has been completed, you use the ‘Manage Your Booking’ facility, which can be easily found on the Eurostar website and select specific seats within the travel class you have chosen.
You will need to enter a Booking Reference number - but other booking agents such as Trainline, Rail Europe, SNCF Connect, B-Europe and NS International, will also include this number on the communication sent to you. * .
Making the connection in Paris:
There is relatively new E.U. legislation which protects travellers against financial loss in the event of missed connections due to train delays, but it only applies to 'through tickets'.
The Eurostar terms and conditions specifically state that when booking journeys which combine Eurostar + Eurostar Thalys trains 'through tickets' will be issued.
'However, 'for all other journeys that combine a Eurostar Service and a service provided by another carrier (such as the TGV or Frecce train on from Paris) including when purchased in a single commercial transaction, those tickets will be separate contracts and issues regarding delays, missed connections, cancellations, compensation, and the management of aftersales will be handled accordingly'.
But SNCF, which operates the TGV train, and Trenitalia, which operates the Frecce train, have signed up to Agreement on Journey Continuation (AJC) policy for when a traveller holds separate transport 'contracts' for an end-to-end journey involving more than one train.
So this agreement applies both when 'a bundle' of tickets / contracts is issued as the result of a single transaction - and if travellers have bought several different tickets for their journey, even from different sales channels/ticket providers.
As long as the passenger had planned enough connecting time to change trains (called “reasonable connecting time”), the AJC will apply.
So in usual* circumstances, if a delay to a Eurostar has caused a booked connection on to Torino to be missed, replacement tickets/reservations should be issued at the Gare De Lyon.
*= But that new E.U legislation specifically states that in exceptional circumstances, the train operators do not need to issue replacement tickets - and the terms and conditions on the SNCF Connect website reiterate this.
These exceptional circumstances specifically stated in Regulation (EU) 2021/782 of the European Parliament include:
This second version of ShowMeTheJourney is exciting and new, so we are genuinely thrilled that you are here and reading this, but we also need your help.
We’re striving not to let anything get in the way of providing the most useful service possible, hence a facility has been set up with DonorBox which can be used to support the running costs and make improvements.
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So if you have found the info provided here to be useful, please consider saying thank you.
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